Now that we write -- many of us feel that we need to get into a critique group so they can give us their take on what we wrote -- I've been doing this for many years -- and I've learned that it's best not to be a large group -- by that I mean no larger than 4 people. Otherwise, it drags on and on and on. And I think it's important to be with other writers who have been at this for the same length time as you only because there are so many wannabees that don't take it seriously. Most people are lonely and sees this as an opportunity to make friends, communicate and then nothing gets done -- this also wears on some writer's patience and that's not good. Writing is serious business and others should respect that --